‘/ o’ in inbox summary says ‘No old news’, my ticks gone

[Göktuğ Kayaalp]

Hi,

i'm kind-of screwed ATM. I just started Gnus (M-x gnus), and it fetched
my new mail online (via mail-sources), but then when I opened my inbox
(an nnml folder), my tick marked messages were not listed as such
anymore, and ‘/ o’ says ‘No old news’. When I look at the mail folder,
the messages are still there, but I can't access them through the
summary buffer anymore. I made a recursive copy of my mail folder.
What's going on? Thanks in advance.

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp
Hi,
i'm kind-of screwed ATM. I just started Gnus (M-x gnus), and it fetched
my new mail online (via mail-sources), but then when I opened my inbox
(an nnml folder), my tick marked messages were not listed as such
anymore, and ‘/ o’ says ‘No old news’. When I look at the mail folder,
the messages are still there, but I can't access them through the
summary buffer anymore. I made a recursive copy of my mail folder.
What's going on? Thanks in advance.

If you're still in the running session, you might try a few "undo"s, and
see if that gets you back into a good state.

Otherwise, look at the group parameters for your inbox ("G p"). What
does is say for the "active" entry? That entry is Gnus' idea of how many
messages are in the group -- if it's gotten messed up somehow, it might
believe there are no messages in the group. What does it say?

Eric

[Göktuğ Kayaalp]

Post by Eric Abrahamsen

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp
Hi,
i'm kind-of screwed ATM. I just started Gnus (M-x gnus), and it fetched
my new mail online (via mail-sources), but then when I opened my inbox
(an nnml folder), my tick marked messages were not listed as such
anymore, and ‘/ o’ says ‘No old news’. When I look at the mail folder,
the messages are still there, but I can't access them through the
summary buffer anymore. I made a recursive copy of my mail folder.
What's going on? Thanks in advance.

If you're still in the running session, you might try a few "undo"s, and
see if that gets you back into a good state.

Unfortunately no.

Post by Eric Abrahamsen
Otherwise, look at the group parameters for your inbox ("G p"). What
does is say for the "active" entry? That entry is Gnus' idea of how many
messages are in the group -- if it's gotten messed up somehow, it might
believe there are no messages in the group. What does it say?

G p buffer shows nil. I found that the ~/Mail/active file had this
line:

inbox 1 1 y

and fixed it setting the first ‘1‘ to the number of posts in that group,
then I got my emails back in the summary buffer. But it keeps
forgetting my ticks when I fetch new mail. They are absent from the
relevant sexp in the ~/.newsrc.eld file.

[Göktuğ Kayaalp]

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp

Post by Eric Abrahamsen

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp
Hi,
i'm kind-of screwed ATM. I just started Gnus (M-x gnus), and it fetched
my new mail online (via mail-sources), but then when I opened my inbox
(an nnml folder), my tick marked messages were not listed as such
anymore, and ‘/ o’ says ‘No old news’. When I look at the mail folder,
the messages are still there, but I can't access them through the
summary buffer anymore. I made a recursive copy of my mail folder.
What's going on? Thanks in advance.

If you're still in the running session, you might try a few "undo"s, and
see if that gets you back into a good state.

Unfortunately no.

Post by Eric Abrahamsen
Otherwise, look at the group parameters for your inbox ("G p"). What
does is say for the "active" entry? That entry is Gnus' idea of how many
messages are in the group -- if it's gotten messed up somehow, it might
believe there are no messages in the group. What does it say?

G p buffer shows nil. I found that the ~/Mail/active file had this
inbox 1 1 y
and fixed it setting the first ‘1‘ to the number of posts in that group,
then I got my emails back in the summary buffer. But it keeps
forgetting my ticks when I fetch new mail. They are absent from the
relevant sexp in the ~/.newsrc.eld file.

Additionally, I see that the ‘.overview’ file for ~/Mail/inbox is
truncated, and only includes entries for the last dozen-or-so messages.
I've tried to regenerate this file with entries for all the messages
without success. When I do ‘/ o’ now, it shows the items in that file
first, whatever number I enter to the prompt. The second time I hit ‘/
o’ and enter some number, that many messages are shown.

[Göktuğ Kayaalp]

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp

Post by Eric Abrahamsen

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp
Hi,
i'm kind-of screwed ATM. I just started Gnus (M-x gnus), and it fetched
my new mail online (via mail-sources), but then when I opened my inbox
(an nnml folder), my tick marked messages were not listed as such
anymore, and ‘/ o’ says ‘No old news’. When I look at the mail folder,
the messages are still there, but I can't access them through the
summary buffer anymore. I made a recursive copy of my mail folder.
What's going on? Thanks in advance.

If you're still in the running session, you might try a few "undo"s, and
see if that gets you back into a good state.

Unfortunately no.

Post by Eric Abrahamsen
Otherwise, look at the group parameters for your inbox ("G p"). What
does is say for the "active" entry? That entry is Gnus' idea of how many
messages are in the group -- if it's gotten messed up somehow, it might
believe there are no messages in the group. What does it say?

G p buffer shows nil. I found that the ~/Mail/active file had this
inbox 1 1 y
and fixed it setting the first ‘1‘ to the number of posts in that group,
then I got my emails back in the summary buffer. But it keeps
forgetting my ticks when I fetch new mail. They are absent from the
relevant sexp in the ~/.newsrc.eld file.

Additionally, I see that the ‘.overview’ file for ~/Mail/inbox is
truncated, and only includes entries for the last dozen-or-so messages.
I've tried to regenerate this file with entries for all the messages
without success. When I do ‘/ o’ now, it shows the items in that file
first, whatever number I enter to the prompt. The second time I hit ‘/
o’ and enter some number, that many messages are shown.

It seems that I've solved this with help from an emacs stack exchange
answer [1], using the command ‘nnml-generate-nov-databases-directory’.

[1] https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/19359

[Eric Abrahamsen]

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Post by Eric Abrahamsen

Post by Göktuğ Kayaalp
Hi,
i'm kind-of screwed ATM. I just started Gnus (M-x gnus), and it fetched
my new mail online (via mail-sources), but then when I opened my inbox
(an nnml folder), my tick marked messages were not listed as such
anymore, and ‘/ o’ says ‘No old news’. When I look at the mail folder,
the messages are still there, but I can't access them through the
summary buffer anymore. I made a recursive copy of my mail folder.
What's going on? Thanks in advance.

If you're still in the running session, you might try a few "undo"s, and
see if that gets you back into a good state.

Unfortunately no.

Post by Eric Abrahamsen
Otherwise, look at the group parameters for your inbox ("G p"). What
does is say for the "active" entry? That entry is Gnus' idea of how many
messages are in the group -- if it's gotten messed up somehow, it might
believe there are no messages in the group. What does it say?

G p buffer shows nil. I found that the ~/Mail/active file had this
inbox 1 1 y
and fixed it setting the first ‘1‘ to the number of posts in that group,
then I got my emails back in the summary buffer. But it keeps
forgetting my ticks when I fetch new mail. They are absent from the
relevant sexp in the ~/.newsrc.eld file.

Additionally, I see that the ‘.overview’ file for ~/Mail/inbox is
truncated, and only includes entries for the last dozen-or-so messages.
I've tried to regenerate this file with entries for all the messages
without success. When I do ‘/ o’ now, it shows the items in that file
first, whatever number I enter to the prompt. The second time I hit ‘/
o’ and enter some number, that many messages are shown.

It seems that I've solved this with help from an emacs stack exchange
answer [1], using the command ‘nnml-generate-nov-databases-directory’.
[1] https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/19359

Glad you got it solved!